very down to earth;-) standard hawley retainers!

On top of regular braces, an all in one both upper and lower expanders, tongue cribs and herbst appliance with an attaching headgear.

Well to answer my own question, I think I'd go for a Herbst appliance. I would love to see what it would feel like. I love the idea that it can't be removed. and it looks like a real mouthful. Headgear is amazing tho. Would be hard to decide between the two. Herbst with wired in headgear would be a dream!

Definitely a twin block, the bulkier the better! Always wanted one but ortho gave me a dynamax instead.

Wired in headgear for sure!

If I had to choose something realistic (one appliance as the focus, not a mouthful of seven), I’d say lip bumper. I love the struggle to get used to it as the wearer’s lower lip either sinks below the lip bumper, revealing bottom braces, or tries excessively hard to keep the lip above it, revealing a large bump just beneath the teeth

Currently my Mod. Twinblock with Herbst and Pelottes from the shop für n combination with my combination Headgear.
My plans for this year are to start a real treatment with hopefully some bulky surprises.
In my age, ongoing 50, I‘m pretty sure that fixed braces will be the ortho‘s choice, where I definetly want metall ones. Some molar bands, for headgear use and hopefully something more, that should ve a surprise for me.
Something as a palatal expander ? tongue habit appliance ? or even a herbst.
Let‘s hope for the most.
I‘ll keep you informed.

Upper and lower expanders, tongue crib and Herbst appliance with lip bumpers. All glued in. The lisp and not being able to remove is the excitement for me.